Mike Ghouse, November 30, 2007
http://www.mikeghouse.net/Articles/Where-is-the-Muslim-Outrage.asp
As a Muslim I am outraged at this nonsense going on in
Sudan and Saudi Arabia.
When Prophet Muhammad’s cartoons were published,
few Muslims around the world were outraged to the
point of becoming destructive. They burned the embassy
in Syria and destroyed property elsewhere. Their contention was that the Prophet cannot
be contained in an image, they were right about it, but were dead wrong on destroying property, it went
against the very principles taught by the Prophet “to
forgive the wrong doers”. Not enough of us were
outraged against those criminals to make a difference.
Ms. Gibbons affectionately called the Teddy bear
"Muhammad" and the fanatics cry foul.
The silent majority needs to step
up and condemn the individuals and the government of
Sudan for treating a lady for her benevolence in such
an ugly manner. She probably would not have named, had
she known the cultural sensitivities about the
name of Prophet Muhammad. Just for naming the bear she
is sentenced to Jail for 15 days.
On the top of that, the shameless Government of Sudan
takes pride in reducing her sentence to 15 days in
Jail with no lashes! For God's sake she did not
even commit a crime to be punished or the sentence to
be reduced. She did not insult the prophet either. As
as Muslim, I admire her gesture. However, out of
reverence, Muslims do not name any one but humans with
a name like that. It is a time honored tradition.
Prophet Muhammad would be saddened with the behavior
of this insane mob. Some of them came out waving
swords and demanding the death of Ms. Gibbons. They
forgot that their prophet had inculcated values of
treating one's guest with full dignity and honor.
Where is the Muslim outrage on going against the
traditions of prophet?
When the Buddha Statue, a world heritage monument was
destroyed in Pakistan last month, a few of us jumped,
but where was the Muslim
outrage?
When the Buddhist Monks were locked up in Burma, where
was the Muslim outrage?
What is good for the goose has got to be good for the
gander. The third Caliph Omar punished his own son
against a complaint from a Jewish businessman; such
was the sense of Justice. Where is that sense of
justice and fairness now?
Mirza Beg writes, “…a woman in Saudi Arabia was
gang-raped. She was seen in a car with a person not of
her family. She was also found guilty along with the
rapists and recommended punishment under the Saudi
Law.”
That was not bad enough, when she appealed to the
Media, her punishment was doubled because she made it
public. Where is the Muslim outrage? Why aren’t the
Muslims jamming the phone lines of Saudi Embassies
around the world?
Why aren’t the Muslims decrying the Saudis for calling
it an Islamic Law? It ain’t, it is their bizarre shameless
law of men who do not follow their own religion
of peace.
The ones who forgive are the dearest to the lord.
Where is this verse buried?
There were members of the
state legislature in India who publicly called to
kill a heretic, and there was a cleric who offered a
bounty for killing the same heretic. Where is the
Muslim outrage against these criminals?
God says “Killing one human is like killing the whole
humanity”. Why isn’t this verse evoked?
Darfur is bleeding, where is the Muslim outrage?
The time has come for the Muslims to speak up; the
silent majority needs to speak up, and let
their outrage be known.
No doubt, the one's who express their outrage are not
given the outlet. The media does not see
sensationalism in this.
At the world Muslim
Congress we will continue to compile the outrage
expressed my Muslims around the world.
I urge the media to give voice to the Muslims who
speak up. It gives hopes to the mankind, whether
we are Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs,
Buddhists or Zoroastrians, we face the common enemy –
ignorance. Ignorance displayed by super literate
people as well as illiterate.
I request Muslims around the globe to send the
material to
wmcArchives@gmail.com
to be added into this Blog and eventually the Website
http://www.worldmuslimcongress.com/
Your Comments:
Mike Ghouse is a Speaker, Thinker, Writer and a
Moderator. He is president of the Foundation for
Pluralism and is a frequent guest on talk radio and
local television network discussing interfaith,
political and civic issues. He is the founding
president of the World Muslim Congress with a simple
theme: "Good for Muslims and good for the world. He
can be reached at
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He is a Dallasite for nearly three decades and
Carrollton is his home town
A few comments are listed below with my responses,
followed by a few articles condemning the bad judgments of Sudan and
Saudi Clerics :
Dear
Mike,
I salute you for this article. This introspection is
what is unfortunately missing among the muslims of
today. There are short comings in every religion
including mine, but there are also enough checks and
balances in each of them save Islam. The fanatics have
hijacked it and you have demonstrated that all is not
lost yet.
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Dear
Ravi,
Thanks for the note.
Every religion has checks and balances including
Islam.
The criminals laws of every country prohibit people from
killing, raping, mugging... and there is a punishment
for it. Greater than 95% of population of any country
follows the laws, obeys the traffic laws. However a
few don't.
It is not the law books that are wrong, it is the
violators that are wrong.
Every religion is beautiful and divine. No one can
claim superiority over the other, as each religions is
dear to the believer.
Mike Ghouse
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Many westerners go about deliberately provoking muslims and we all know what kind of insane response you get from some muslims. .....
Chandra:
Agree with you that a few westerners have made it
their business to provoke, get angry reactions, create
the fear and then cash it in. Poor Americans dole out
monies if they are frightened and some charlatan
claims to become their saviour.
However, Ms. Gibbons is a genuine teacher, and showed
affection, it was rather endearing. Those idiots did
not understand, they were waiting for an opportunity
to get angry at anything, a result of their
suppressive government.
They need to get on their government and not on
others. There is big time Imam next door in Somalia,
who openly advocated to have liquor within the
confines of the walls.
It is a darn shame, people are misused and it is a
greater shame, they take their anger on the innocent
people.
Mike
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Mike,
My hat is off to you and to any who are determined to
reclaim their religion from the fanatics.
A person can take any belief system and warp it into a
reason to legitimize hatred and bigotry. It is up to
all of us to utilize reason and love to penetrate
these kinds of narrow minded acts and beliefs. Often
the scariest actions are not those of the perpetrators
but rather of those who look upon them with apathy.
We can not afford to ignore those who warp any
beautiful religion into their own ends. A few days ago
a gentlemen asked me about my upcoming trip to
Malaysia to speak with 300 Muslim women, (I'm not
Muslim by the way), where I am supposed to speak about
how to balance preserving one's culture in the face of
globalization without resorting to violence. The man
had to gall to suggest that I tell these women to
change to some other religion than Islam. I had to
struggle not to spit up my water, as he said it when I
was in mid sip! I asked him calmly why he thought that
and he answered, "Well look at all the extremists out
there!" So I asked him if he thought the Ku Klux Klan
exemplified Christianity. Of course he said, "No". So
then I asked him, "But they say they do." Of course he
said, "But I'm a Christian and I have do not abide by
their awful belief systems. They just warp our Bible."
I smiled at him and said, "Exactly." The light went
off in his head at that moment.
All of us hold our spirituality as a deeply private
matter...I'm not talking about the public charms
around our necks of star of Davids, crosses, or even a
Wiccan pentacle. I'm not talking about showing up for
church in your Sunday best. I'm talking about our
conversations with God that occur inside our heads and
hearts in those sacred moments of the days or night.
We would each feel this communion with the Divine with
or without the aid of any one religious practice. But
for some reason people like to think that they can lay
claim to what that holy relationship is between other
individuals and the Divine. What arrogance!
Perhaps the greatest answer to fanatics of any kind is
to ask where is their humility? I mean, at what point
does any one individual believe he or she can speak
for what another's beliefs and spiritual practices
should be and how they should be practiced. And how
should any one of us begin to judge another for being
less a Christian, a Jew, a Moslem, a Native American,
a Hindu, a Wiccan, a Zoroastrian, a HUMAN BEING than
who we are?
Again, Mike, my hat is off to you for standing up for
your faith's true beauty in the face of extremists who
claim to speak for all Muslims. For mankind to
progress past these kinds of socio-pseudo-religion
"takeovers", we will all need to practice the same
kind of humility, respect, passion and grace as you
have.
Stay Inspired!
Mary Ann Thompson-Frenk
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Mary Ann,
I know you will do a great job in building bridges in
Malaysia and inspiring people to be good beings.
All it takes for each one in our groups, including
this particular group to become ambassadors of peace -
whose words and actions reduce conflicts and fosters
goodwill.
Let's not look to someone else, neither keep a score
on others. Let's bring the peace to our own soul
first... Before we ask for peace, we must be peaceful
first.
Thank you Mary Ann for such an inspirational message.
Mike
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Mike, Please tell me I'm wrong. Can Islam be corrected? BTW I'm not here to start a flame war
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Dear
Unni,
I know you are not here to start a flame war and I
appreciate that, that means our resources are to be
employed more appropriately - yours and mine and
everyone else's to combat ignorance.
Religion is not the reason for problems of the world,
it is the ignorance. As I have noted earlier - if one
commits a crime in India -it does not mean India is
criminal or its constitution is wrong, it is the darn
criminal. Look at the crime stats - it is not
committed by 100% of Indians be it 100%of Muslim, 100%
of Hindu... you will not find more than 5% of
population in crime, the rest are good law abiding
citizens. India is not and cannot be called
criminal... it is not even her people, it is the
individuals. Same goes with Religion, it is not the
religion.
How do you solve terrorism? The same way as common
criminals, jail each one individually as individuals,
and the murderer that is thrown in the jail is not to
be labeled as Indian murderer, let it not be Hindu or
Muslim terrorists, it is simply the terrorist.
If I call those guys involved in either Godhra or
Gujarat - Muslim Terrorists or Hindu Terrorists... it
offends the innocent law abiding Muslims and Hindus.
It starts with the right labels. Terrorists. Period.
It does not incite either Muslims or Hindus with such
labeling.
Besides, the followers of all religions have their
prime duty to have peace for themselves and peace for
others.
As an individual, who is also a Muslim, me and all the
people that I know, are there to mitigate conflicts
and foster goodwill. I am sure, you are part of this
peace makers. It starts with each one of us. If we
cannot be peaceful, we cannot expect others to be.
Mike Ghouse
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well
someone should be outraged because in the sudan people
are taking to the streets calling for the execution of
that british teacher, calling her an infidel and
saying she is poisoning the minds of children. all
over a small misunderstanding for which she has
apologized profusely. meanwhile in that country people
are being murdered wholesale.
I have nothing against righteous mulims, but I hate
extremists of every religion equally. it is becoming a
sad, frightening, polarized world.
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Dear SS,
None of us should have anything against others. Crimes
are committed by individuals, not by Hindus, not by
Muslims, not by a Nation or a religion.
If we bark against the wrong tree, we will not get the
results. If you have the time check out my piece on
Laser Barking at the terrorists - how to work with the
terrorists.
Please do not hate any one - you are the first one to
lose peace to do so and it strips your ability to be a
peace maker or at least not to be a trouble maker.
Mike Ghouse
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condemnation is the order of the day for utter nonsense like this and the saudi rape victim but the muslims have to go beyond condemnation and spread awareness and knowledge to their multitudes...that would be a formidable task otherwise they would be doomed to making knee-jerk condemnations for a long time
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Dear
Temporal;
Agree with your thought that condemnation is the first
step to express the wrongness, that is the least one
is expected to do. If one sees a wrong in the world,
the prophet whom these ignorant's claim to follow,
advises that you must step in and stop the wrong,
mitigate the conflict or at least you can speak up and
let others know it is wrong.
Many organizations are involved in bringing education
to the criminals, it will come. Just as we cannot wipe
crimes - thefts, rapes, mugging, arson, murders in
India or America, we cannot completely eliminate
terrorism in one day. But we can reduce it by treating
them as individual criminals and containing the crime
to them and not making it a group item.
You and I may not be satisfied with the speed of
results, but it is happening.
Mike
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The
Muslim ummah is a fictional state in the west, that
does not really exist in the Muslim world. I know of
several educated Muslims who bemoan the backwardness
of the Sudanese and the Arabs (what else can you
expect from those goatf***ers? Bah!) rather than see
this as a problem that affects all Muslims
Strangely though, lately I have seen a shift in this
trend. Muslims who are judged for their beliefs by
people who do not even know them (like Unni above)
have begun to realise that, like it or not, what
happens in Sudan or Saudi Arabia is no longer a local
issue of jurisprudence, but a global issue of Islam.
What Saudi Arabia and Sudan do is not linked to their
history, type of government or culture but is an issue
for all Muslims regardless of their country of origin.
The Chechnyan, the Malaysian, the Indonesian, the
Chinese, the Canadian, all must take responsibility
for what happens in Sudan or Saudi Arabia.
Isn't it amazing that regardless of what people may
think about Islam, they believe, deep in their hearts
that all Muslims are one? Regardless of country,
color, gender, socioeconomic status, ethnicity, all
Muslims are as ONE.
Now all we have to do is wait for Muslims to discard
their apathy and recognise this fact.
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Dear
Sam;
You have made good points, but this particular one is
the where I will apply the standard question, "IF IT
APPLIES TO ME, WOULD THAT APPLY TO YOU?" or even" WHAT
IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE HAS GOT TO BE GOOD FOR THE
GANDER"
Let's put your sentences to test;
The comment "What happens in Sudan or Saudi Arabia is
no longer a local issue of jurisprudence, but a global
issue of Islam".
What happens to Hindus in Caribbean, Fiji, Malaysia,
Bangladesh, Russia, Uzbekistan or Timbuktu is no
longer a local issue.
What happens to Christians in Indonesia, Pakistan,
China or India is no longer a local issue.
And now this sentence;
Isn't it amazing that regardless of what people may
think about Hindus, they believe, deep in their hearts
that all Hindus are one? Regardless of country, color,
gender, socioeconomic status, ethnicity, all Hindus
are as ONE.
Isn't it amazing that regardless of what people may
think about Jews, they believe, deep in their hearts
that all Jews are one? Regardless of country, color,
gender, socioeconomic status, ethnicity, all Jews are
as ONE.
The Bahai's, Zoroastrians, Buddhist, Jains and others
are no exception either.
It is wrong to paint Muslims or any one in that light,
it is creating a division of Humanity... Yes, many a
people do that, does it mean we have to do it as well?
NO, absolutely NO. I have taken up the issue in each
instance above. It is a human issue indeed.
-
http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2007/02/hindus-harassed-in-kazhakstan-dear-mr.html
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http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2007/06/bangladeshi-hindus-harassed.html
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http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/2007/08/condemn-temple-desecration.html
The World Muslim Congress has condemned any injustice
towards any human, whether is is Hindu, Muslim, Sikh,
Christian, Zoroastrian, Jew, Buddhist, Bahai or any
one...
Each one of us have to stand up for justice for all.
We cannot have justice to one and not the other, then
it is not justice. Justice is a strong concept in all
human endeavors and religions, certainly it is in
Islam.
People make mistakes, religions don't.
Mike Ghouse
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Mike,
This was a very interesting article. It is evident
that there is some real movement in the Moslem world,
and your writing is real evidence of this. With your
permission (and that of the publisher here, I'll
forward this article to the Yahoo List of Sheikh
Abdulhadi Palazzi and to the Editor of the Root &
Branch Information Service for publication there. It
is very important for non-Moslems to realize that the
Moslem world is not a monolithic bunch of mad, throat
cutting terrorists or drive-by shootout artists, even
if a lot of the locals here give that impression.
Shavua Tov,
Have a good week
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Ruvy,
Shalom
(check this out:
http://www.foundationforpluralism.com/Pluralism%20Greetings.pdf
)
What made you log onto this website? Just curios.
Thank you for the comment, please forward to Dr. Abdul
Hadi Palazzi in Italy, he and I have had several
exchanges in the past... I lost the link to his
website... he has the best recitation of one of the
most popular chapter of Qur'aan. I long to hear it.
112:1 SAY: "He is the One God:
112:2 "God the Eternal, the Uncaused Cause of All
Being
112:3 "He begets not, and neither is He begotten;
112:4 "and there is nothing that could be compared
with Him.
I am familiar with the interfaith work that is going
on in Israel. I was going to be in Jerusalem with the
International Federation for Peace, but have postponed
due to committments. May be in March 2008.
By the way we were the first group of Muslims in the
world, who commemorated holocaust, the surivior spoke
at lenght. And am a good friend of director at the
Holocaust musuem. We will be doing the event again in
Jan 2008. Never again should the world go through what
it did in the holocaust.
I am surprised you are writing on Saturday!
Shavua Tov,
Mike Ghouse
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Mike:
"Each one of us have to stand up for justice for all.
We cannot have justice to one and not the other, then
it is not justice. Justice is a strong concept in all
human endeavors and religions, certainly it is in
Islam.
People make mistakes, religions don't."
Absolutely, I totally agree. I always give the
example, if you are drowning and a hand is extended to
you for help, would you care about the religion of the
hand?
20,000 children die of starvation everyday. A vast
majority of people in the world live on less than a
dollar a day, in conditions of shameful deprivation,
lack of human rights and unaware of choices and
opportunities that you and I take for granted.
Instead of bemoaning the visible results of this
deprivation, what we need most urgently is people who
CARE. Care enough to educate one child, feed a family
and provide an opportunity.
As Gandhiji said:
The world has enough for everyone's need, but not
everyone's greed.
I am happy and pleased to see your efforts. Kudos to
you and all those like you.
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First of
all, I dont know who gives out this nonsense of
"Religions are for peace". I have yet to see anything
based on any ideology "ACT" for peace! NONE!
Religions are nothing but ideologies with a
self-constructed haloes! Nothing more. Just like
communism or hardcore capitalism... Islam or
Christianity or other religions stand ONLY for their
PRIMACY and nothing more. There is an inherent element
of intolerance in the genesis and existence of all
ideologically based groups.
So, to expect Islam or any other religion to even work
for the goodness of mankind is utter nonsense. It can
never happen.
There is a difference between spirituality and
religion. At the level of spirituality, one does need
to assert any thing.. least of all a "distinction"...
so ideology or ideas that get their strength from
people loses meaning. That alone can be basis of
peace.
But to me when someone starts parroting that religions
or ideologies which owe their strength in any one
PERSON, GROUP, BOOK or institutions.. however pious
He/They/it may be ... I am amazed at the inherent
ignorance and shallowness of understanding of the real
issue of misery in the world.
And please... dont start citing Quranic verses here to
argue against this thing.. as I can also cite enough
lines from Mein Kampf and Communist Manifestos etc.
Its all the same... its about the animal called
IDEOLOGY... the generic form.
Cheers,
Desh
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Desh,
Let me address your comments back wards, Para by Para.
Please feel free to quote from any book you wish, if
there is goodness out there, it ought to be universal
and open, and not become any one's exclusive property.
Christians do not own Jesus or his message, neither
Hindu has copy rights to Bhagvad Gita or Santana
Dharma nor do Muslims own Qur'aan or God. The message
and the book belong to all. They are indeed self
improvement books, and to limit them is a travesty to
the message of goodness. It is a shame to bottle and
limit the messages of these great teachers. It is a
greater shame if we are close minded and afraid to
learn from more than one source.
To understand misery in the world, please give a shot
at reading Gautama Buddha's 4 noble truth, you will
find an answer there as clear as crystal clear waters.
The message of any religion is not a magical; it is a
distilled wisdom to live a good life. A good life is
where one is not afraid of the fellow being and pretty
much have a balance between the desires and their
gratification.
I agree with you about spirituality. Let me add.
Spirituality and arrogance are inversely proportional
to each other.
Please look around - look at the charities, hospitals,
educational institutions, ashrams, soup kitchens,
women shelters..... by all religions. They abound,
without which life would not have been where it is
today. All religions motivate individuals to take care
of each other, especially the down trodden. By the
way, both Hinduism and Islam have a saying "let the
left hand not know the charity that right hand gives".
There is a Doha (couplet) where one Muslim Fakir
(forgot his name) was helping poor people and when he
gave, he lowered his gaze and gave. Tulsidas wrote to
him, why he does that, why does he lower the gaze,
instead he should be proud that he gives.... The Fakir
said "why should I be proud of giving something that
is not mine, God gave me and I am merely passing it
out?" Most charities and good works are not
publicized; they silently work and help the needy.
Prophet Muhammad had advised his associates, that when
you give, give as quietly as you can - so you do not
embarrass the receiver. Desh, please enrich me and
quote from Mein Kempf, I would love to learn.
Each religion answers people's deep concerns - why was
my baby born blind? Why did my beloved die? How do
tyrants get away from injustices? How come I cannot
find the job? Why is that I cannot have friends? ....
Religions answer these questions and bring about
calmness and composition to an individual and
societies. Islam, Christianity or any faith, are all
out there to do good to humanity. Individuals do
wrong, but not the religion. The Pope in cahoots with
the European kings issued a Fatwa that Christians have
to go kill the infidel Muslims and Jews... Without
that Edict, the soldiers would not have given up their
lives for the kings. It is wrong of us to give the
Pope as the representation of Christianity... he was
as human as any one, he did not get the message of
Jesus.... If not he would not have done what he did.
Bhagvad Gita has my favorite quote - "Finding the
truth is one's own responsibility" Which means,
whatever you learn from your teacher and parents makes
you hate some one without any basis, it is your
responsibility to find the truth, so you can be
released from the Pain and achieve Nirvana.
Thanks God we are endowed with religion (all of them),
without which, the world would be chaotic.
Ah, by
the way when Tsunami hit, every one was out there to
help instinctively. The first ones to hit Tamil Nadu
shores were Muslims, who gave shelter in their
Mosques, the Swami Naryan People, Israel flew doctors
to Banda Aceh... there was no distinction about who
you serve and who served. That is the power of
religion.
Mike
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I am
little new to this sites but not to this type of blogs.
very great article.
But one observation. In the process of asking your Religion folks for introspection it is better not to compare with other religions. This way it gives unnessary comparison and unnecessary war of words...eventually loss of real message.
See the situation goes like..
-U compare Hindus/Xians at one point.
-One Hindu gets angry and responds with some comments.
-to this a Muslim (untill them believes your article)
suddenly becomes defensive and blasts on him.
-then the loop continues.
I am not saying introspection is not needed in
Hinduism or other religions/cultures.
-"Sati" which was prevalent some time back in hinduism
was aboloished by every one. I don't it is practiced
even on remote areas (some odd cases might be reported
hear and there but it is not a trend)
-Similar way there are lot of things like woman's
importantce in society, caste system,etc,etc are
questioned and debated.
introspection is always needed in all religions.. as
apart from basics I feel all religions shd evolve as
mankind is evolving.
Hindu-American
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Namaste
my Hindu friend,
Agree with you that introspection is necessary. The
good news is, it is going on a daily basis. Thanks to
the internet and America, people living in America (no
matter what faith they wear) are fairly bold and value
their freedom and judge religions from that
perspective.
Yes, we have the neo-cons, a few Islamists, and few
extremist zionists and a few Hindutvadis, who frighten
people.
Look at any website that is run by neo-cons of all
religions, there would be a fearful story as PS in #29
has narrated... and then they ask for money. All the
right wing organizations know that the only way to
collect money is to manufacture fear, twist events to
fear...and ask money.
It is a business for them, and a lot of ordinary folks
get suckered into it.
Mike Ghouse
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"because
more and more Jews in US are falling prey to
Evangelical Christians and messianic ideologies"
I do not believe this. In fact, what is happening in
American Judaism now is that people are practising it
less and less. Out of 50% of Jews who profess to be
Judaic (the other 50% are secular Jews or profess no
religion), only half, ie about 26% go to a syangogue.
http://www.culturaljudaism.org/pdf/ajisbook.pdf
Sam
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Sam,
You are close to being right, you will be right in a
few more years. There was movie about a Palestinian
terrorist premiered in Dallas. I was perhaps one
of the few non-Jews there.
The conversation after the show was interesting... I
have written two columns on that some two years back
and a few of my Jewish friends agreed with the
content.
Several of them said that the Palestinians did not
exist and were an implant from Arab nations. Of
course, when I reminded them 1948, and Holocaust
relocation....then a few started seeing another point
of view.. but they were afraid to speak up. It amazed
me how much misunderstanding is programmed out
there.
However, more and more Jews are thinking independently
now, and are not afraid to speak up, unlike in Israel,
where Jews do speak up against wrongs. By the way, the
principle of what is good for goose.... applies to
Hindus, Muslims and Christians as well. The majority
knows the wrongs, but still scared to speak up.
My mission is for people to see demystify the myth of
others, as that myth is ours too.
Mike Ghouse
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Farhan -
Hello
Ruvy if you talk about the reconciliation between
children of Abraham it is a impossible mission atleast
for near future, because more and more Jews in US are
falling prey to Evangelical Christians and messianic
ideologies, the evaangelicals are preparing for a war
between west and Israel on one side and
Muslim+russia+china on other side, resulting in second
arrival of Jesus.
Any reconciliation should be between Palestanians and
Jews living in Israel, no US between them.
As far wahabis(salafis) remember they do not have any
interest in Palestine-Israel issue,and giving much
importance to Jerusalem or Al-aqsa is a shirk.
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Farhan,
It is not an impossible mission. Possibilities exists
because each one of us, you, me, Ruvy and others
believe it will happen.
The extremists in all faiths are very passionate about
what they do, they jump at the command and stick with
the leadership, (they surrender to the will of their
leaders and rarely employ their mind) whereas that
passion is missing among the moderates. The time has
come for us to speak up and out strongly.
The ugliness of Bush/Cheney gang persists in the world
because the darned good silent majority
hesitates, by nature they are not loud enough to
condemn their missions. By the way I am a Republican,
a moderate one. There aren't that many of us, but the
seed is sown and will take time to for the Republicans
to get off the hard core mindset to the middle of the
line, which most Americans (or any public in any
nation) are.
The chief difference between the extremists (neo-cons,
Hindutavadis, extreme Zionists and Islamists) and us
the moderate is they drive the herd with fear, and we
have hope to dangle and not many not find it
interesting. Theirs is tangible and ours is
intangible.
The neocons (all faiths) feast on every instance like
the one in Sudan and Saudi Arabia, while the other
extremists feed them. We should not stay quite and
become a spectator, we have to do the right thing. The
least we can do is speak up.
Mike Ghouse
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Mike..
Good post and very timely.
Condemning bad is very therapeutic for society.
Especially from members of communities on whose name
bad is committed. Also when it is committed by a
fellow member and rest of the community had nothing
doing with it. It allows stray or local incidents from
escalating into us vs them hostility. Silence or
looking other way usually allows the other side to
mobilize the outrage of the incident to make a bigger
issue out of it, whose consequences can come back to
haunt entire communities. So silence and looking other
way is never an option. After the issue has taken
confrontational overtones and damage is already done,
coming out of the shell and hitherto silence to pour
condemnation and outrage is rarely effective and stand
accused of partisan posturing and exploitation for
political ends.
I agree that all religions have something good in them
which holds these religions together and they also
somethings bad. They all have their
minding-their-own-business majorities and small bend
of fanatics out to change the world in their
religions' mirror image. Religions have to find ways
to wrest power away from their fanatics and
fundamentalists by creating other power-centers
within, empowering moderates - some religions so have
mechanism to do that, some do not. And that is the
crux of problem - because it gives fanatics of other
religions an imperative and urgency to empower
themselves at the expense of moderates. Ultimately.
merit of religions in modern society have to be judged
on this, not by how much good they do and what is
actually meant in their scriptures. Otherwise, Nazism
and communism too had their ardent followers and they
too did lots of good work and they too had their share
of fanatics and they too can claim they had to do
terrible things for maintaining purity, purpose and
self-defense of their manifestos. So how are religions
any better? What if communists were to claim communism
was good but only people did not follow it right and
only its fanatics were to blame and not communism?
That can not be how religions or ideologies can be
measured. How well they are able to self-police their
own worst instincts and their own worst elements is
the critical yardstick.
Kerty
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Kerty, I
just cannot admire enough on your note... I was
writing one similar article, but I will defer to you,
your words are just perfect and express my sentiments.
Please write a full blown article on that. It will hit
the target in the bulls eyes.
Mike Ghouse
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Mudassar
When we
all know that the cases highlighted in this article
are nothing to do with Islam then why should we be
outraged? Saudi and Sudan are as much islamic states
as Israel and the US. We forget that the creators of
the state of saudi arabia were the destroyers of the
ottoman state -the last islamic khilafah/state.
the darfur crisis is one engineered by the western
powers to access to sudan's natural resources i.e. oil
and gas. judge islamic laws by the actions of a
caliphate. you yourself highlight the example of the
2nd caliph omar ibn khattab. these are the people to
use as examples of islamic law in practice whether
good or bad.
to go on the back foot everytime the media highlight
some bad actions by muslims mean putting islam on
trial every other second. this is a sign of deep
insecurity.do we trial christian america or the west
for 2 world wars, use of atomic weapons, conquest of
small 3rd world countries like vietnam? NO.
Islam doesnt need defending. the worlds truth seekers
whether muslim or not know the real culprits and
reasons behind contemporary troubles.
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Mudassar
Rana,
Please refer to Kerty's note , it has the answers to
your forthright comments.
Our goal,the people with a conscience and people who
care about peace in the world in general, and the
Muslims who sing a song about Islam being peace in
particular, have additional burden to do the work of
peace.
I do agree with you 100% that the majority of any
group knows the truth, that it is the work of fringe
element and it is.
However, when you see the fringe group constantly
violate the rules, in the case of Sudan, the
government was involved in it and shamelessly they
took pride in it that they have reduced the punishment
to 15 days. There should not have been any punishment
at all, she did not make a deliberate mistake, it was
an honest cultural conflict she did not understand.
Average people do that every day.
It is our obligation to condemn such a wrong, if not,
it is a blanket authorization to others to continue.
The Saudis? I do not think it is an Islamic government
in any form, monarcy is not Islamic, the prophet
wanted leaders to be selected with consensus, sort of
democratic system. The prophet was not in favor of
hereditary leadership either, he knew, it would become
corrupt. I have written and talked about it at lenght,
but for now, Saudi is not an Islamic Govt.
To call their brutal laws Islamic is a shame, and if
we do not condemn it, we are silently approving it.
The evil exists in the world not because of evil
people, but because the good people don't do anything
about it.
Mike Ghouse
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We Jews
all know what it means to be the Other in the
world. For all her differences with me in her views,
Smallsquirrel (another one who writes comments) knows
as well as I. We both know what it means to hear
Christ-killer, god-killer, Jew bastard, kike, and all
the other shit the goyim threw our way in America. We
all know what it means to be worried about a pogrom,
even if we never experienced it ourselves. Some of us
had to fight hateful scum throughout our entire
childhoods because we are Jews. Screw the pictures of
Auschwitz. We see the old folks with the blue numbers
tatooed on the arm, the numbers they didn't want to
talk about for years - and we know. And when they
finally do talk about it we want to break down and
cry. But the show goes on, and we cannot afford to
break down or to cry, except in the darkness, hidden
from a world sick with the gimmes - gimme this, gimme
that! And here in the Middle East, I hear itbáH al-yahúd!
(slaughter the Jews!) and al-yahúd klabná (the
Jews are ur dogs). So we know.
Smallsquirrel and I have walked different paths, and
therefore have different views, but neither of us
needed to know any languages of India to know the
language of oppression, and about being the Other.
If you want to wag your finger of self-righteousness,
wag it at someone else.
Ruvy - addressed to Small Squirrel - another comment
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Ruvy,
I fully understand the agony and the pain the Jewish
community has endured and continues to endure. I
empathize and respect the capacity of the community to
bear it.
The worst case of betrayal came in Germany, when after
nearly a 2000 years of diaspora, the Jews integrated
into the society, believed, they were no different,
believed they were a part of it. In all reality, the
fascist criminals did not accept the genuine sincere
effort of Jews then.
Although a majority of Christians do not have
ill-will, there are enough of those few evil men who
call Christ-Killer and the other phrases you have
mentioned.
Every day, some where or the other comments are hurled
at Jews. Two years ago, in the Dallas City council, a
council man referred to another council person as "You
people", meaning Jewish as some thing less. I was
outraged and Dallas Morning News published my outrage
then, not only that several Muslims were outraged with
that kind of attitude by the council person.
Ruvy, it is the small things we have to guard... you
had said a beautiful phrase somewhere above that every
day we discover myth busting about others.. welcome to
the world of....
You, me, and every one who is committed to creating a
better world, have to keep working at it, I know at
least let a few people can see that there is good in
accepting and respecting the God given uniqueness to
each one of us.
Mike Ghouse
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Salaam,
Dear Raafia,
I respectfully submit that both of us are doing, what we believe are important to us.
The issues you are talking about are important as well and no issue should be pushed to the corner.
Our limitations are;
1) We cannot utter all the injustices in one breath.
2) We cannot express all issues in one word.
Given that limitation, we have to deal one issue at a time, that is my personal preference, you may have your own style, but all are honing on issues.
Please work on the issues that are important to you and I will work on the issues that are important to me. Together, God willing we may achieve a few things.
I reiterate my standing on the usage of the word Kufffar. As a Muslim I do not subscribe to the meaning you are giving in splitting the world into Kuffars and Muslims, that sounds like George Bush's imitation - either you are with us or with them. It will not cut for me, it is an extreme position. Very few, yes very few Muslims subscribe to that idea, the Majority follows the middle path - getting along with every one and creating peaceful world, I am on that path. Indeed, that is the guidance from God. Qur'an, Al-Hujurat, Surah 49:13: "O mankind! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. The noblest of you, in sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Allah Knows and is Aware."
I believe in what is good for Muslims has got to be good for others and vice-versa. I strongly believe in the verses of Qur'aan, do unto others as you would want others to do for you.
Please continue on working what you are guided by, and Insha Allah, I will follow the path that guides me. Let's respect each others work.
I am pleased to share this dialogue with the public at http://www.mikeghouse.net/Articles/Where-is-the-Muslim-Outrage.asp
Jazak Allah Khair
Mike Ghouse
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In a message dated 12/4/2007 10:23:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, raafiaxxxxxx@aim.com writes:
No Mike
Today Saudia and Sudan are not the
subjects..........except by CNN Headlines. If
Muslims would search the world and create their own
headlines, I am sure neither one of these issues
would make page 25.
We are becoming more and more like the kuffar with
this short attention span. When you read Quran, the
first issue is always Allah's Oneness, Heaven and
Hell. This should always be first and foremost in
our minds. Second, we are to be mannerly and just.
If we make the issue of this rape (alleged) or this
woman who defamed the Prophet, a headline issue,
then we are being UNjust to the many other plights
that Muslims are facing.
If I am being choked by a burglar. and you are in
the room with me and cleaning the furniture, that is
unjust. This doesn't mean the furniture is not
dirty or the floor doesn't need sweeping, but in
light of the fact I am being attacked and you are in
the room, you have forfeited my rights over you as
my Muslim brother, because you have forsaken me.
We are to honor our brothers, not oppress them, not
forsake them.
So my last word on this issue is that we need to
stop focusing on the minor issues and focus on the
major oneos. I am pretty sure if you scour the news
all over the world, and compare it to the status of
Muslims and Islam in the world today, both of these
issues would be non-issues.
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Raafia,
Appreciate your note and dialogue.
You have made a few assumptions, one of them is that you are the only one standing up for Muslims and other's are not. The reality is you are one of the 1.5 Billion Muslims as I am, each one of us is doing the work, some less than their share, and some more than they can handle.
Please look at the situation.
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7 years ago - other topic
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If It was a year ago - many topics
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A month ago we talked about different things
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Today, Sudan and Saudi Arabia's situation is the talk and focus
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Tomorrow, it may be Iran again.
Please know that in one single breath, we can talk only one thing that needs attention.
Islam means peace to me, it is not a word to flaunt around, it is the actions we take. Working for reducing the conflicts and fostering goodwill.
To me the world exists as human beings with different belief sets worshipping and bowing to the same divine. Every human believes in creator, or cause of creation in his or her own way and no one is denying the existing of the cause of creation AKA God.
Hence, the word Kuffar has to be debated much, and is not a wedge to divide people and to me no one at this time is a Kuffar in the sense it was used then.
We need to look at the world from a larger context, the context that God has shown to all, including us, the Muslims. Please remember, God is not the God of Muslims exclusively, he is God of the Universe, and it is the in very first verse of Qur'aan, and Qur'aan concludes in the very last chapter Naas by addressing all humans and not Muslims - Let's not depreciate the word of God by dividing people. We are one world and one community and we have to create peace among ourselves, we have got to know each other, again refer to Qur'an, Al-Hujurat, Surah 49:13: "O mankind! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. The noblest of you, in sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Allah Knows and is Aware."
Mike Ghouse
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In a message dated 12/4/2007 9:27:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, raafivvvvvvvv@aim.com writes
I am not denying that these two miniscule issues
are not issues. They are issues. But the
response i see from the Muslims, you would think
that these are the worst things Muslims are
enduring. By far, they are not. You seem to be a
man of intelligence, thus i assume that you are
aware of the plight of Muslims all over the world.
Are you telling me, with all of the death and
destructions muslims face, that these two issues
are of the highest priority? Sufficient for you
to go on this global email campaign?
I see people quote ayaat from Quran to support
these two incidents, but I have yet to see these
same people quoting the ayat where Allah says,
When a fasiq person comes to you with news, to
verify it? Have you spoken to the judges and the
victim? Have you even verified if there was a
rape? There are many versions of what happened
here, we are NOT to automatically to condemn
neither the judges nor the victim.
This is not professional, nor Islamic, but rather
purely knee-jerk reactions, based upon headlines
from the kuffar. And why these two cases? When
there are instances in the world where Muslims are
enduring far worse treatment.
One more thing, Mike. Anytime a Muslim is
standing side-by-side with the kuffar and
attacking another Muslim, he should reflect his
position.
You, and a host of others, are busy attacking
muslims, with the kuffar beside you. THIS is not
behavior of a muslim
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Dear Raafia,
Indeed, I am outraged at the treatment meted out to Muslim women and all women all over the world. As Muslims we have to speak out against any injustice; be it against Muslims or any one without distinction.
This week it was Ms. Gibbons that is harassed, so we speak out and express our outrage. We did condemn the mistreatment of Saudi Women. Ms. Gibbons did not insult our prophet at all. With all the love and endearment she named the Teddy.... she is not aware of out cultural sensitivity, we have to forgiver or take a minute to explain to her. Islam is about caring and understanding and not about violence. We are rightly outraged. It does no diminish our outrage at the patriarchal societies and how badly they treat women around the world.
The idiocy of Sudan and Saudi - reflects on all of us Muslims and we have to speak out, their laws may be bad, but not Islam's.
Mike Ghouse
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In a message dated 12/3/2007 2:08:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@aim.com writes:
What I really find outrageous is how when we live in
a time where there are Muslims being killed by the
thousands, and jailed, and raped. Their lands are
being invaded, and they are being oppressed by
Muslim dictators, how can we even show the slightest
concern over a woman who defames the Prophet?
Do we ignore the plight of the Muslims (like the
kuffar) but we get outraged when a headline is used
to excite us against Islam and the Muslims?
How can we have so much concern over ONE woman being
jailed, when Muslim women are being jailed all over
the world?
Do we care for the kuffar more than we are concerned
over our Muslim sisters?
Yes Mike, where is YOUR outrage?
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I have received over 150 pieces.... I will post them here as and when I get the time. You are welcome to post your comments at: Here Thank you.
Travesty of Justice - Sudanese Caricature of the
Islamic Law
Mirza A. Beg, Friday, November 30, 2007
Sadly a majority of people practice double standards.
They tend to judge others more harshly, but find
excuses for their own failings. Collectively, other
races, countries and religions are judged harshly,
while we turn a blind eye to whatever we construe as
our own.
I suffer from a reverse malady. I am sad at injustice
to anyone anywhere, but it offends much more when it
is done in the name of my country, society or
religion. That is why abjuring popular sentiments, I
am more critical of injustices done in the name of
Islam, the United States and India.
When others condemn, some times genuinely, and some
times maliciously, the knee-jerk reaction is to
criticize the critic that they are equally bad or
worse. I hear this often, when I write about the
immoral war in Iraq, based on lies; the Pogrom by the
state government of Gujarat in India or the horrible
things that the Talibanist mentality has done in the
name of Islam.
Recently, a woman in Saudi Arabia was gang-raped. She
was seen in a car with a person not of her family. She
was also found guilty along with the rapists and
recommended punishment under the Saudi Law. That is
bad enough, but to call it Islamic is travesty of
truth and reason.
In Sudan, a British teacher was arrested for the "sin"
of helping her class of seven year olds to name a
cuddly teddy bear, Muhammad. Yesterday, after a court
trial, she was sentenced to 15 days in jail, and it is
reported that a crowd was clamoring for a death
sentence. In a closed dictatorial country a crowd does
not gather, it is allowed or urged to gather.
The problem springs from a misunderstanding of
cultural norms. In the West people often name their
pets after the people they love, including their
parents, friends, and even prophets. In the East
people give their pets loving precious names, but not
the names of people they love and respect. It is
considered an insult, akin to calling one's best
friend or a prophet a dog or a cat.
All Muslims consider Islam to be a just and humane
religion. The most popular stories that children grow
up with are about the kindness, humanity and mercy of
the Prophet.
One of the most popular stories is that the Prophet
was reviled and cursed by many Meccans, just after his
call to Islam. There was a woman who routinely threw
garbage on him, when he passed through her street. For
a couple of days she did not. He inquired and learned
that she had been sick. His reaction was to go to her
house to console her.
A well recorded fact of history is that after
conquering Mecca he forgave all, including some who
had said and done vile things, including a woman,
Hinda, who desecrated the corpse of the Prophet's
uncle. There are many other such stories and recorded
historical events.
An average person may be forgiven for being impetuous,
emotional and blinded by the love for the Prophet, but
the Sudanese judge and the government ought to know
better. This is complete ignorance and disregard of
the primary sources of Islamic jurisprudence. It is an
insult to Islam, humanity and justice.
All Islamic scholars would agree that the Islamic laws
are based on four principles, in the following order
of importance, with a strong caveat that the act is
punishable based on intent, and when in doubt mercy
over-rides the blind word of the law.
1. The edicts of Quran.
2. Not finding in Quran, the actions or sayings of the
Prophet, compiled as sets of Hadeeth by a few scholars
about 150 years after his passing.
3. Qiyas – analogy from similar rulings emanating from
the first two.
4. Ijma – the consensus of the scholars.
In view of the above, as reported, the British teacher
was in Sudan serving the populace. 1-Though the Quran
condemns harming or insulting the Prophet, it does not
recommend a temporal punishment. 2- The Prophet was
the best interpreter of Quran. The life history of the
Prophet illustrate that he was kind to even those who
insulted or injured him. 3-The teacher was clearly
serving the people and her intent was not to insult. 4
- Most scholars in the Islamic world would be at
variance with the Saudi and Sudanese interpretation,
because not only they violate the intent and mercy
clause, but also the 2 nd principle.
As children we laughed at a collection of jokes under
the loosely translated ditty:
Strange land - Stupid ruler - they sell - Cow for a
dollar - Hay for a dollar.
One of the jokes was - a very fat man was condemned to
hang. The rope was not strong enough for his weight.
So they found a thin man and hanged him, to satisfy
the letter of the law.
That was a joke, but this is an insult to all sense of
justice Islam and humanity.
Mirza A, Beg can be contacted at mab64@yahoo.com or
http://mirzasmusings.blogspot.com/
WHAT WOULD MUHAMMAD DO?
By Ibrahim Hooper
http://www.cair.com/ArticleDetails.aspx?mid1=777&&ArticleID=23869&&name=n&&currPage=1
[Ibrahim Hooper is national communications director
for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic
Relations (CAIR), the nation’s largest Muslim civil
liberties group. He may be contacted at: ihooper@cair.com
]
During last year’s protests over publication of the
Danish cartoons designed to insult the Prophet
Muhammad, I wrote a commentary called “What Would
Muhammad Do?”
Given the ongoing controversy over the jailing of
British teacher Gillian Gibbons in the Sudan for
“insulting Islam,” perhaps it is time to remind us all
how the Prophet himself reacted to insults, both real
and perceived.
Even if Ms. Gibbons had the intent to cause insult, which does not seem to be the case, Islamic traditions include a number of instances in which the Prophet had the opportunity to retaliate against those who abused him, but refrained from doing so.
“You do not do evil to those who do evil to you, but you deal with them with forgiveness and kindness.” (Sahih Al-Bukhari) That description of the Prophet Muhammad is a summary of how he reacted to personal attacks and abuse.
Muslims are taught the tradition of the woman who would regularly throw trash on the prophet as he walked down a particular path. The prophet never responded in kind to the woman’s abuse. Instead, when she one day failed to attack him, he went to her home to inquire about her condition.
In another tradition, the prophet was offered the opportunity to have God punish the people of a town near Mecca who refused the message of Islam and attacked him with stones. Again, the prophet did not choose to respond in kind to the abuse.
A companion of the prophet noted his
forgiving disposition. He said: “I served the prophet
for ten years, and he never said ‘uf’ (a word
indicating impatience) to me and never blamed me by
saying, ‘Why did you do so or why didn't you do so?’”
(Sahih Al-Bukhari)
Even when the prophet was in a position of power, he
chose the path of kindness and reconciliation.
When he returned to Mecca after years of exile and personal attacks, he did not take revenge on the people of the city, but instead offered a general amnesty.
In the Quran, Islam’s revealed text, God states: “When (the righteous) hear vain talk, they withdraw from it saying: ‘Our deeds are for us and yours for you; peace be on to you. We do not desire the way of the ignorant’. . .O Prophet (Muhammad), you cannot give guidance to whom you wish, it is God Who gives guidance to whom He pleases, and He is quite aware of those who are guided.” (28:55-56)
The Quran also says: “Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knows best who have strayed from His Path and who receive guidance.” (16:125)
Another verse tells the prophet to “show forgiveness, speak for justice and avoid the ignorant.” (7:199)
These are the examples that Muslims should follow as they express concern at the publication of insulting cartoons or at misperceived actions of a well-meaning teacher.
After the Danish cartoon controversy and allegations of Quran desecration at Guantanamo Bay, CAIR initiated educational campaigns as a peaceful, constructive response. This is an approach that people of all faiths can appreciate, as it helps us move toward respect and religious tolerance.
SEE: http://cair.com/explorethequran/ and http://cair.com/muhammad/
This most recent episode can be used as a learning opportunity for people of all faiths who wish to promote mutual understanding. It can also be viewed as a “teaching moment” for Muslims who want to emulate the Prophet through the example of their good character and dignified behavior.
As the Quran states: “It may well be that God will bring about love (and friendship) between you and those with whom you are now at odds.” (60:7)
This week’s unfortunate incident in the Sudan points to the need for an increased level of dialogue between ordinary people in the Muslim world and the West.
The complaint brought against Gillian Gibbons was an inappropriate use of Sudan’s legal system to deal with what was in essence a disagreement between parents and a teacher. Ms. Gibbons should never have been charged. She should be released immediately.
Qur'aan on Sudan situation
1:1] In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
[5:8] O
you who believe, you shall be absolutely equitable,
and observe GOD, when you serve as witnesses. Do not
be provoked by your conflicts with some people into
committing injustice. You shall be absolutely
equitable, for it is more righteous. You shall observe
GOD. GOD is fully Cognizant of everything you do.
Peace be upon you.
British teacher Gillian Gibbons was convicted of
insulting Islam for letting her pupils name a teddy
bear Muhammad and sentenced to 15 days in prison and
deportation from Sudan, one of her defense lawyers
said Thursday, 11/29/07.
Gibbons was teaching her pupils, who are around age 7,
about animals and asked one of them to bring in her
teddy bear, said Robert Boulos, a spokesman for Unity
High School in Khartoum. She asked the students to
pick names for it and they proposed Abdullah, Hassan
and Muhammad, and in September, the pupils voted to
name it Muhammad, he said.
Each child was allowed to take the bear home on
weekends and write a diary about what they did with
it. The diary entries were collected in a book with
the bear's picture on the cover, labeled, "My Name is
Muhammad," he said. The bear itself was never labeled
with the name, he added.
The country's top Muslim clerics pressed the
government to ensure that the teacher, Gillian
Gibbons, is punished, comparing her action to author
Salman Rushdie's “blasphemies” against the Prophet
Muhammad.
Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and
knives, rallied Friday in a central square and
demanded the execution of the British teacher.
I simply failed to understand how did the teacher
insult the Prophet?!
Anyway, assume that the teacher insulted the Prophet.
In that case, what the Sudanese should have done as
Muslims with this teacher?! Put her in the prison and
deport her?! Execute her?! Absolutely not! According
to the Quran, God does not give them permission to
punish her for her "action". It is God Who will put
her in hell, if she really insulted the Prophet!
[4:140] He has instructed you in the scripture that:
if you hear GOD's revelations being mocked and
ridiculed, you shall not sit with them, unless they
delve into another subject. Otherwise, you will be as
guilty as they are. GOD will gather the hypocrites and
the disbelievers together in Hell.
[5:57] O you who believe, do not befriend those among
the recipients of previous scripture who mock and
ridicule your religion, nor shall you befriend the
disbelievers. You shall reverence GOD, if you are
really believers.
[6:68] If you see those who mock our revelations, you
shall avoid them until they delve into another
subject. If the devil causes you to forget, then, as
soon as you remember, do not sit with such evil
people.
[18:106] Their just requital is Hell, in return for
their disbelief, and for mocking My revelations and My
messengers.
[39:48] The sinful works they had earned will be shown
to them, and the very things they used to mock will
come back to haunt them.
[45:33] The evils of their works will become evident
to them, and the very things they mocked will come
back and haunt them.
The Quran guarantees freedom of choice to all the
people on earth:
[2:256] There shall be no compulsion in religion: the
right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone
who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has
grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD
is Hearer, Omniscient.
[18:29] Proclaim: "This is the truth from your Lord,"
then whoever wills let him believe, and whoever wills
let him disbelieve....
[6:104] Enlightenments have come to you from your
Lord. As for those who can see, they do so for their
own good, and those who turn blind, do so to their own
detriment. I am not your guardian.
[10:99] Had your Lord willed, all the people on earth
would have believed. Do you want to force the people
to become believers?
[2:148] Each of you chooses the direction to follow;
you shall race towards righteousness. Wherever you may
be, GOD will summon you all. GOD is Omnipotent.
[73:19] This is a reminder; whoever wills, let him
choose the path to his Lord.
Undoubtedly, the muslim masses insult the Prophet by
rejecting his message.
[25:30] The messenger said, "My Lord, my people have
deserted this Quran."
Thank you and may God guide us,
M. Irtaza
Fri 30th November 2007
In the name of God, the most Compassionate, the most
Merciful
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Press Release: Protest outside Sudanese Embassy: Free Gillian Gibbons Now!
In regards to the current situation MPACUK and Emel
magazine are organising a protest calling for a stop
to the outrageous decision by a Sudanese Court to jail
British teacher, Gillian Gibbons, for allowing her
class of seven-year-olds name a teddy bear Muhammad.
54 year old Ms Gibbons has been jailed for 15 days,
having already served 5 of those 10 days. Now hundreds
of Sudanese protesters have called for the death of
the poor woman in Capital Khartoum, proving just how
out of control this situation has become.
The British government and Sudanese Government need to
be working harder and faster at making sure that Ms
Gibbons returns home safe and sound.
We invite you to voice your anger and concerns at the
protest taking place outside the Sudanese embassy in
London Tomorrow, 1st December at 2 pm.
Embassy of the Republic of Sudan
3 Cleveland Row
St. James’s
London
SW1A 1DD
Calls in Sudan for execution of Briton
By MOHAMED OSMAN, Associated Press
Writer 50 minutes ago
Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and
knives, rallied Friday in a central square and
demanded the execution of a British teacher convicted
of insulting Islam for allowing her students to name a
teddy bear "Muhammad."
The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons, as pickup trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Gillian Gibbons, the teacher who was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in prison and deportation. She avoided the more serious punishment of 40 lashes.
They massed in central Martyrs Square
outside the presidential palace, where hundreds of
riot police were deployed. They did not try to stop
the rally, which lasted about an hour.
"Shame, shame on the U.K.," protesters chanted.
They called for Gibbons' execution, saying, "No tolerance: Execution," and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad."
The women's prison where Gibbons is
being held is far from the square.
Several hundred protesters, not openly carrying
weapons, marched about a mile away to Unity High
School, where Gibbons worked. They chanted slogans
outside the school, which is closed and under heavy
security, then marched toward the nearby British
Embassy. They were stopped by security forces two
blocks away from the embassy.
The protest arose despite vows by Sudanese security officials the day before, during Gibbons' trial, that threatened demonstrations after Friday prayers would not take place. Some of the protesters carried green banners with the name of the Society for Support of the Prophet Muhammad, a previously unknown group.
Many protesters carried clubs, knives and axes — but not automatic weapons, which some have brandished at past government-condoned demonstrations. That suggested Friday's rally was not organized by the government.
A Muslim cleric at Khartoum's main
Martyrs Mosque denounced Gibbons during one sermon,
saying she intentionally insulted Islam. He did not
call for protests, however.
"Imprisoning this lady does not satisfy the thirst of
Muslims in Sudan. But we welcome imprisonment and
expulsion," the cleric, Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri,
a well-known hard-liner, told worshippers.
"This an arrogant woman who came to
our country, cashing her salary in dollars, teaching
our children hatred of our Prophet Muhammad," he said.
Britain, meanwhile, pursued diplomatic moves to free
Gibbons. Prime Minister Gordon Brown spoke with a
member of her family to convey his regret, his
spokeswoman said.
"He set out his concern and the fact that we were
doing all we could to secure her release," spokeswoman
Emily Hands told reporters.
Most Britons expressed shock at the
verdict by a court in Khartoum, alongside hope it
would not raise tensions between Muslims and
non-Muslims in Britain.
"One of the good things is the U.K. Muslims who've
condemned the charge as completely out of proportion,"
said Paul Wishart, 37, a student in London.
"In the past, people have been a bit upset when
different atrocities have happened and there hasn't
been much voice in the U.K. Islamic population,
whereas with this, they've quickly condemned it."
Muhammad Abdul Bari, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, accused the Sudanese authorities of "gross overreaction."
"This case should have required only
simple common sense to resolve. It is unfortunate that
the Sudanese authorities were found wanting in this
most basic of qualities," he said.
The Muslim Public Affairs Committee, a political
advocacy group, said the prosecution was "abominable
and defies common sense."
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, spiritual leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans, said Gibbons' prosecution and conviction was "an absurdly disproportionate response to what is at worst a cultural faux pas."
Foreign Secretary David Miliband summoned the Sudanese ambassador late Thursday to express Britain's disappointment with the verdict. The Foreign Office said Britain would continue diplomatic efforts to achieve "a swift resolution" to the crisis.
Gibbons was arrested Sunday after another staff member at the school complained that she had allowed her 7-year-old students to name a teddy bear Muhammad. Giving the name of the Muslim prophet to an animal or a toy could be considered insulting.
The case put Sudan's government in an embarrassing position — facing the anger of Britain on one side and potential trouble from powerful Islamic hard-liners on the other. Many saw the 15-day sentence as an attempt to appease both sides.
In The Times, columnist Bronwen Maddox
said the verdict was "something of a fudge ...
designed to give a nod to British reproof but also to
appease the street."
Britain's response — applying diplomatic pressure
while extolling ties with Sudan and affirming respect
for Islam — had produced mixed results, British
commentators concluded.
In an editorial, The Daily Telegraph said Miliband "has tiptoed around the case, avoiding a threat to cut aid and asserting that respect for Islam runs deep in Britain. Given that much of the government's financial support goes to the wretched refugees in Darfur and neighboring Chad, Mr. Miliband's caution is understandable."
Now, however, the newspaper said,
Britain should recall its ambassador in Khartoum and
impose sanctions on the Sudanese regime.
___
Associated Press writers Jill Lawless, David Stringer
and Kate Schuman in London contributed to this report.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mohammed_teddy_bear_row_Britain_warns_Sudan/articleshow/2582662.cms
29 Nov 2007, 2006 hrs IST , Rashmee Roshan Lall , TNN
Gillian Gibbons, the British teacher accused of insulting Islam by naming a teddy bear Mohammed (AFP Photo)
LONDON: An outraged Britain piled the diplomatic
pressure on Khartoum over the case of a Liverpudlian
teacher accused by conservative Sudanese Muslims of
insulting Islam by allowing her class to name a teddy
bear 'Mohammed'.
Even as the British teacher, Gillian Gibbons, appeared
in a Khartoum court with the threat of punishment
ranging from 40 lashes, a prison sentence and a fine
hanging over her head, British Foreign Secretary David
Miliband said on Thursday the UK wanted to make clear
to the Sudanese authorities that she had not shown any
lack of respect for Islam.
Gibbons is charged with insulting religion, inciting
hatred and showing contempt for religious beliefs has
arrived at court.
Commentators expressed fears the row might snowball
into an international clash-of-civilisations crisis
similar to the controversial Danish cartoons of the
Prophet of Islam.
Miliband, who summoned the Sudanese ambassador, Omer
Mohammed Ahmed Siddig, to the Foreign and Commonwealth
Office, piled on the pressure even as Prime Minister
Gordon Brown got personally involved in the affair by
speaking to a member of the teacher's family.
Even as a horrified British media continued a second
day of angry front-page coverage of the so-called
"teddy row teacher" affair, Miliband firmly declared
that he hoped "common sense would prevail" on Khartoum
and its hardline leader President Omar Bashir.
While allegedly sensationalist reports continued to
pour into Britain that Sudan's top clerics are calling
for the full measure of the law to be used against
Gibbons because her actions were part of a Western
plot against Islam, the UK government reiterated its
"highest respect for Islam".
But sections of even Sudanese academia insisted the
British teacher had been wrong to name the bear
Mohammed because the animal does not exist in Sudanese
folklore "if you call someone a bear they will be
angry".
As the potentially explosive diplomatic row escalated
and angry Sudanese promised large street protests
after Friday prayers to call for the Briton to be
lashed in public or even hanged, Miliband insisted,
"We want to see her freed as soon as possible. This is
a human story, no malice is involved. Her security and
welfare are absolutely at the forefront of our
concerns...this is not a political dispute".
Gibbons, a 54-year-old former deputy head teacher in
Britain, taught at an elite British-run school in
Khartoum.
On Thursday, four days after her arrest, photographs
of her round, pudding-like face continued to be
plastered across the British press, alongside
anguished reports of her plight "locked in a cell in a
police station...her toilet is a hole in the ground,
her window a small, barred opening high in the wall".
Sudan
By Ibrahim Abdil-Mu'id Ramey
MAS Freedom Civil and Human Rights Director
As the world knows by now, a British secondary school
teacher in Khartoum, Sudan was arrested by Sudanese
authorities for allegedly defaming the Prophet
Muhammad (Peace be Unto Him) when, as part of a class
project at the Unity School, a stuffed toy bear was
named Muhammad. The name was voted on by the entire
class, apparently not to refer to the Prophet of
Islam, but in honor of a male classmate.
The teacher, Gillian Gibbons, was then reported to
authorities by another faculty member and subsequently
charged with blasphemy and promoting religious hatred.
The initial, possible penalty faced by Gibbons was one
year imprisonment and 50 lashes; which was, at the
time of this writing, reduced to 15-days jail time and
deportation.
News sources report that some 600 demonstrators
congregated in Khartoum to protest the alleged
defamation of Prophet Muhammad. Some were reported to
have called for the execution of the teacher.
Lets review: the naming of a stuffed, toy bear after a
boy in a classroom in Sudan has been transformed into
a major international incident; a teacher has been
incarcerated; a few zealots have called for her severe
punishment; and the governments of the United Kingdom
and Sudan are now embroiled in a major spat.
This incident is perfect for fueling the rhetoric of
Islamophobes and Islamic extremists alike, and selling
tabloid newspapers.
But it's also a matter that has serious repercussions,
not only for Muslims in Sudan, but for the global
Muslim community as well.
Why should we be concerned about a single teacher and
a Teddy Bear? The emerging truth of the matter is that
the school children themselves, and not their teacher,
chose to name the toy bear. That alone should have
been enough to exonerate Ms. Gibbons, and bring the
matter to a swift (and innocuous) conclusion, however,
the current climate of mutual distrust and animosity
between many people in the "West" and the Muslim
world, has grown into something so pervasive that an
'incident' such as this has erupted into a major
incident.
There are people in the Muslim world - particularly in
the aftermath of last year's Danish cartoon incident -
who believe that Muslims should vigilantly defend
their faith and Prophet against defamation. And we
should. But we should be collectively judicious in
judging if, and when, the defamation of our faith
actually occurs.
I seriously doubt that Ms. Gibbons acted in an
intentionally disrespectful way toward Islam and
Prophet Muhammad. She should not have been punished,
and she is owed a serious apology by the state and
people of Sudan.
Then, there is the issue of what the people of Sudan
should really be concerned about.
Given the ongoing crisis in Darfur, the disintegration
of the North-South unity government, armed
insurrection in eastern Sudan, and the Herculean task
of rebuilding the nation after a horrific 20-year
civil war, I would humbly submit that the Sudanese
government, and its people, might want to invest their
energy in responding to issues much more important
than the naming of a toy.
I trust that Ms. Gibbons will be freed by the
authorities in Khartoum, although I expect that her
teaching experience in Sudan will come to an abrupt,
and unhappy, conclusion given the news of her pending
deportation.
It is my sincere hope that responsible parties on both
sides of the issue will use this incident as an
opportunity to examine the danger of over-reaction, on
the part of some Muslims, to unintentional offenses.
Likewise, people in the Christian world should not use
such events to mischaracterize or stereotype all
Muslims as extremists.
It's all too much for the Muslim world to bear.
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